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Goku vs. Vegeta
Topic Started: Jun 5 2012, 07:13 PM (2,201 Views)
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I pretty much also think that Base Goku = Base Vegeta (EoZ)

Unless Goku really did get 400 times stronger.

In which case, Vegeta must've gotten at least 800 to 900 times stronger in Base due to the wide margin caused by Goku in the Boo Saga.
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Wait what ami missing something if goku and vegetahad a wide margin in buu saga

Then how r they equal eoz


Ar. U guys reffering to the potenial unlock that would make his base stronger or what
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No, I'm just saying that 10 years is enough for Vegeta to efficiently train, and close the gap between Goku.

IMO, Goku (EoZ) trained regularly, but not as hard as he did in Otherworld, or in the RoSaT, so he didn't get 400 times stronger, as some want to believe.
Edited by GridZero, Jun 5 2012, 08:53 PM.
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Oh isee nah i still have goku stronger just cause the gap was big.enough and goku is a more of an efficient trainer


I wish vegeta got a cool form like goku got ssj3

Gohan got ultimate



Vegeta should of got some super.cool one too

Like vegeta ss3 #2

Where tere are two different types of ssj3 the one goku has and a type vegeta gets they each have pros and cons that could be shown

Like since goku is more hand tohand combat he should be stronger

Since vegeta is mlre ki attacks his ki attacks should be stronger

These are just examples there could be more different nces




That would be cool
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Jun 5 2012, 09:01 PM
Oh isee nah i still have goku stronger just cause the gap was big.enough and goku is a more of an efficient trainer


I wish vegeta got a cool form like goku got ssj3

Gohan got ultimate



Vegeta should of got some super.cool one too

Like vegeta ss3 #2

Where tere are two different types of ssj3 the one goku has and a type vegeta gets they each have pros and cons that could be shown

Like since goku is more hand tohand combat he should be stronger

Since vegeta is mlre ki attacks his ki attacks should be stronger

These are just examples there could be more different nces




That would be cool
I like this theory.

I always thought the ideal combat form for Vegeta should be SSJ2, but a different version of SSJ3 would work for him.

I honestly don't like how his SSJ3 looks.

SSJ3 Vegeta from Raging Blast
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Yeah tat one is not bad but imagine two types that would be awesome


No one can bec ome the type of ssj3 that vegeta is that would be boss
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so you guys all believe that vegeta would get stronger and not goku? since when has goku trained as hard as vegeta to get as strong? never...

Is that why the hate?

If goku is looking down on good buu then i have reason to believe he is strong anough to take kid buu in SSj.

Nothing wrong with vegeta powering up, but ever since gokus first outer space adventure, vegeta has never really had an advantage.

even when goku was sick, vegeta was barely over him, some say even equal to goku at full power.

But since vegeta was healthy, he was ready to go, goku wasnt.

The rosat and gokus leaps and bounds of strength took everyone by storm, this gap never changed.

Vegeta said so in the buu saga.

so ten years later, i can see his SSj2 being as powerful as gokus SSj3 buu saga at full power, but in order for goku to be stronger in his SSj forms he has to be stronger in base also.

SSj2 vegeta= 2.0

majin vegeta= 2.8

SSj2 goku 2.8

Ssj3 goku 4.2

Thats a huge gap to cross.

Theres no way vegeta could get any higher than that.

Like i said, i believe goku is strong enough to take kid buu in FPSSJ.

Thats a real time gap right there.

it makes sense for his SSj2 form to be stronger than his SSJ3 in the buu saga as well.

Not putting him too far behind movie 13 goku IMHO.
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Nah ia gree with ya ninja man

Goku got stronger inthose ten years


In the end its all opinion
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Goku vs. Vegeta ; Saiyan Saga: Vegeta is superior, kaioken x3-4 Goku is stronger, and then Ape Vegeta by a wide margin

Goku vs. Vegeta ; Freeza Saga: Vegeta is stronger after both heal before going to Namek, Goku is stronger when he touches down, Vegeta is stronger than Goku without kaioken vs the Ginyus when he has that test of strength with Frieza by a huge margin (so were Gohan and Krillin), Goku after the healing pod is way superior

Goku vs. Vegeta ; Trunks Saga: Vegeta has the superior base as Goku admittedly assumed he killed Fireza and/or Cold despite not being a SSJ, but Goku can beat him with Kaioken or SSJ easily

Goku vs. Vegeta ; Android Saga: Vegeta as Goku outright states if Vegeta can't beat the androids he can't, and Gohan and Piccolo don't argue with him being the strongest one there is

Goku vs. Vegeta ; Cell Saga: Vegeta after ROSAT by leaps and bounds, Goku after his turn in the RoSaT by huge margin, and then a big but smaller margin, maybe 30% at the Games

Goku vs. Vegeta ; Boo Saga: Goku had the same edge because of other world training and the fact Vegeta experienced a lol and gave it up after seeing Goku sacrifice himself and Gohan beat Cell (the anime says he trained for 5 years and took 2 off); then they meet Babadi and they are equal in the first 3 forms with kaioken and SSJ3 giving Goku the edge

Goku vs. Vegeta ; EoZ: Hard to say, but Bulma does say Goku is 1 and Vegeta is 2 period; Vegeta also makes the little proclamation at the end, so I'll say Goku is stronger but the gap between them is more like the gap between Goku and Vegeta when they met Gero
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Thala na Gethu!

It always irks me on how by EoZ, Vegeta was still behind Goku.

I mean Vegeta is easily one the series most strategic, genius fighter.

His abilitites should easily put him equal to EoZ Goku, meanin Vegeta SHOULD be able to reach SSJ3. My opinions...
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But it was never said ssj3 could be obtained on earth alone. If it would have been possible, I would think Gohan and Vegeta would have obtained it at least in GT for instance. Goku was in Other World and Gotenks was in another dimension or plain of existence as well in ROSAT. If the form dragged like it did for Goku and Gotenks could only hold it for 5 minutes on earth, I just don't see how they could have obtained it without leaving that world
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Thala na Gethu!

That maybe true. But still, Toriyama could've cut the slack.

I mean Vegeta was once a badass character & was simply surpassed by virtually everyone.

All the way frm Fat Boo, SSJ3 Goku, SSJ Gotenks, Good Boo, Evil Boo, Super Boo, SSJ3 Gotenks, Mystic Gohan....

He was easily one of the weakest in Boo Saga. Hated that fact.

Despite his astoundin entry into Cell Saga, say his fight with Semi-Cell, his was quickly relegated inot background once Cell Games Saga came into the play...
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Well to be fair Vegeta on Babadis ship earned his title of being the strongest man alive from his training.
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Thala na Gethu!

Despite that, he was overshadowed greatly, makin him almost to look like an ant..
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